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Joint
Conservation Committee Reports Reports
provided by PA Legislative Services The
Joint Legislative Air and Water Pollution Control and Conservation
Committee held an environmental issues forum regarding the newly
permitted use of tire derived fuel. Dan Traynor, environmental manager for the
Northampton Generating Company, L.P., presented a PowerPoint presentation on their
efforts to provide renewable energy from scrap tires by utilizing tire
derived fuel (TDF). He first provided some background on the history of the Traynor then provided some more information of TDF supplies. He
noted one scrap tire is generated per person per year in the Traynor briefly explained the circulating fluidized bed (CFB)
technology used by Traynor was asked about the company's monitoring system. He
responded they look at NOx, SOx
and CO in addition to certain metals. He said it took the company about four
to five years to develop the TDF operation and cost about $250,000 to get it
approved. Someone asked where the company gets the topsoil to cover the ash
at their reclamation sites. Tom Brown, the company's general manager, said
they get it from multiple sources. Traynor was then
asked about the type of incentives the company is looking for. Traynor responded that they are interested in any type
especially tax incentives or tax credits. Brown added that transportation is
the issue for the company. He added they need tire to "sweeten the
blend" of fuels needed in creating the electricity at the plant. Someone
asked if the company anticipates using more tires. Traynor
said they would have to go out of state unless some incentives are provided.
Another question was asked about the amount of water the company uses. Traynor said the company uses one million gallons per day
from the Rep.
Julie Harhart (R-Northampton) said the plant is in
her district and said the company is "doing a fine job". Brown said
most people do not know the power plant exists because the fuel is burned in
a very controlled process. Jeff
Cox, PA Legislative Services The
Joint Legislative Air and Water Pollution Control and Conservation
Committee held an environmental issues forum on Goodwill Industries of
Pittsburgh's Electronics Recycling Program. Members
in attendance included Chairman Scott Hutchinson (R-Venango), Rep. Rich Grucela (D-Northampton), Rep. Bob Bastian (R-Somerset),
Rep. Mark Longietti (D-Mercer), Rep. Kathy Rapp
(R-Warren), Rep. Camille George (D-Clearfield), Rep. Chris Ross (R-Chester),
Rep. Ronald Miller (R-York), Rep. Carole Rubley
(R-Chester) and Sen. John Wozniak (D-Cambria). Michael
J. Smith, President and CEO, Goodwill Industries of Pittsburgh told the
committee that his organization was the first Goodwill in the country to
initiate a computer recycling program in 1995 when Carnegie Mellon University
donated its inventory of used computers. The University also provided
technicians to help launch the "You
can pick up any newspaper today or watch any news show and you see that the
attention of the nation seems to be poised upon being environmentally
responsive, as well it should be," Smith said. "Although many
different 'Go Green' efforts are not popular, they are of great consequence
today and perhaps, even more importantly, they are vitally important to our
children and their future and of course, to our planet itself. So, in
accepting the challenge, Goodwill recognizes that the environmental impact of
e-waste, if unchecked, will become the fastest growing environmental problem,
even more than it is today. The project celebrated a major accomplishment
earlier this year - the one millionth pound recycled, with just this
program," he added. "We've
already proven that with very limited funding, we've been able to achieve a
lot," Smith went on to say. "We've helped with a greater
environmental issue, while at the same time assisting with workforce
development in our region. With the opportunity for further assistance from
the state government, we could greatly increase our project keeping even more
of the e-waste out of our landfills. As a result, one byproduct will be
putting more people to work. Rep.
Ross said he introduced legislation last session dealing with e-recycling and
will introduce a bill this session too. "My understanding of the
economics of this whole issue of by-product recycling is that the actual
recycling work that you all are doing in-house is perhaps the least of your
costs. The most difficult piece of this is to transport the materials in
sufficient quantities to give you product to work with. If there was a way to
fund that transportation and collection process, that would be a big step
forward in your success. Is that correct?" Smith said, "Absolutely,
and I think that's been proven in some of the other states. Rep.
Rubley wanted to know if there was a similar
program in the southeastern part of the state. Smith said there is not,
adding that many of the Goodwill operations around the state are watching
carefully to see how the Rep.
Rubley asked if the average citizen can go to the Rep.
Miller asked if the reason they don't do other electronic goods, like
televisions, is that they can't be refurbished. Smith said that is absolutely
the case, adding that they can't easily dispose of television sets. He said,
"Even though we reject televisions during the day, they will end up on
our doorsteps at night." Chairman
Hutchinson asked if there is a good market for de-constructed components.
Smith responded by saying the monitors are a problem, but they have markets
for practically everything. He said there are approved companies that Dell
uses to resell the materials and they audit their recyclers to make sure they
are complying with their requirements. He said the market is there and there
is a wide price difference but if they can command a good price, they try to
sell as much as possible. He said they break the computers down into as many
components as possible, down to the nuts and bolts, in most cases. He said
materials including plastic, metal and wiring are separated and there are
markets for each of them. He noted that the market for the plastic components
has recently made a comeback. Chairman
Hutchinson inquired about how much of the market Goodwill is reaching. Smith
said he didn't know exactly how much of the market they reach, but it is
currently "…a small percentage of what is out there. We're starting to
get the word out and that will help our business." Chairman
Hutchinson asked what other things they do with the computers they refurbish.
Smith noted they do three things with them. In some cases they keep the
computers for their own use within Goodwill if there is a need for them, they
will swap them out with older, outdated models, or, they will provide them to
schools and other organizations who are in need of an upgrade and finally,
they sell them in their computer store or their Goodwill stores and
"...trust me, we can't keep them on the shelves," he added. Rep.
Rapp wanted to know if the people coming in to work have little or no skills
and if they are trained to work in the program. Smith said some of the people
do have technical skills to do the refurbishing work but many of the
employees are trained to come into the program. Rep.
Rapp said many of the people Goodwill hires are welfare-to-work participants.
She asked if the program is successful, could it be expanded to other parts
of the state. Smith said it could, adding that t Goodwill organizations
around the country are watching the Rick
Morrison, PA Legislative Service JOINT LEGISLATIVE CONSERVATION
COMMITTEE Public hearing re e-waste By Nate Collins, PA Legislative Services The Committee held a public
hearing concerning electronic waste (e-waste) recycling. Members in
attendance included Chairman Scott Hutchinson (R-Venango), Senator Ray Musto (D-Luzerne), Senator Roger Madigan (R-Bradford) and
Rep. Kathy Rapp (R-Warren). Chairman Hutchinson stated this
issue is important for Meggan Ehret, Senior Counsel for Thomson Inc.,
a member of the Electronic
Manufacturers Coalition for Responsible Recycling, said her
company is a world leader in digital video technologies. She commented that
her company advocates for advanced recovery fee (ARF) legislation to finance
the recycling of televisions. This system has been working well in Senator Musto
stated computer manufacturers prefer producer responsibility and he asked why
it is different for televisions. Ehret replied that
it is because of the difference between computers and televisions. She said
there is a lot more value in recycled computers, so many
companies take them back. She also noted that the life of computers
and televisions are very different. Lastly, she noted that companies like
Dell are manufacturers and they sell their products, which television
manufacturers do not. Senator Musto asked if the
industry will accept any other proposals if the ARF is not accepted. Ehret said the industry is willing to work hard with the
Legislature to come up with a solution. She suggested that one idea would be sunsetting the fee. Chairman Hutchinson asked if the
Coalition would accept a two-tiered system, with one model for televisions
and one for computers. Ehret replied that they have
not seen that model in action, but she believes that a bifurcated model may
work. Chairman Hutchinson asked what year the Bob Erie, CEO, E-World Recyclers, outlined Senator Musto
inquired if the state of Chairman Hutchinson questioned how
much bureaucracy is actually necessary for enforcement of a recycling
program. He then asked if there is a problem when one state has an
e-recycling program and the states surrounding it do not. Chairman Hutchinson asked why the
state needs to set the recovery fee as he believes the market should dictate
the amount. Thomas Fidler, DEP Deputy Secretary of Waste, Air and Radiation Management,
remarked on the volume of electronic waste, stating that an estimated 304
million electronics were removed from Senator Musto
asked if the department can ban e-waste in landfills through regulation. Fidler answered that the department is putting bans into
regulation and he hopes it is sufficient but he believes it may be better to
put the ban in statute. Senator Musto asked if the
state needs to have its e-waste and recycling program in place before it
implements a landfill ban. Fidler said yes, adding
that the ban would have to be phased in and over time it would create a
steady flow of waste. Senator Musto inquired if the
department is conducting any studies on e-waste in Senator Madigan noted that
discussions have taken place on a national e-waste recycling program and he
asked why nothing is moving forward. He also asked if a regional approach
would work. Fidler replied that for a level playing
field a national approach is the best. He suggested that things have broken
down at the national level because of differences in the different regions
across the country. He opined that a regional program would not work either
because some of the states have already begun their own individual programs. Joseph Nardone,
Environmental Health and Safety Director, Amandi
Services, Inc., said his company is acknowledged internationally as one of the
premium cathode ray tube glass to glass recyclers in the world. Technological
advances in electronics means that the volume of e-waste generated in the Senator Musto,
noting in Nardone's written testimony that 180
million electronic devices are in storage, asked where the devices are being
stored. Nardone replied that they are stored in
people's attics, garages and other areas of their homes. Senator Musto asked if there are any warehouses storing
electronic devices. Nardone replied that there are
a lot of warehouses in the Joanne Sonenshine,
Environmental Policy Manager of Government Affairs, Consumer Electronics
Association
(CEA), said her association and its members are committed to the responsible
recycling and reuse of consumer electronics products. She commented that CEA
advocates for one national solution to the e-waste problem. "While CEA
believes that e-waste must be managed appropriately, this ever-growing web of
differing state laws has had a significant impact on our members,
particularly as they work to adjust their business models to adapt
state-by-state," she stated. CEA is committed to consumer education on
the need for recycling at the end of life and encourages retailers to
communicate to their consumers on proper disposal methods, Sonenshine offered. She told the committee that CEA
encourages shared financial responsibility for electronics recycling.
Consumer electronics companies have developed numerous ways to ensure that
their products are efficient in use and easily and safely disposed of at the
end-of-life, she explained. The electronics industry is constantly exploring
new avenues of growth for their businesses, coupled with ways to be more
environmentally conscientious, which may include incorporating streamlined
packaging, differing design mechanisms and developing products that take up
less space in landfills, she said. Rona Cohen, Senior Policy Analyst,
Council of State Governments, said currently there is no national program to
address the proliferation of e-waste in a comprehensive manner. She noted
that nine states have passed laws that mandate different approaches to
financing and administering electronics end -of-life management systems. The
Council of State Governments/Eastern Regional Conference (CSG/ERC)
facilitated a dialogue among legislators in the region to create model
legislation that can be filed in each of the participating states, she
explained. She offered that the legislators spent a lot of time debating the
question of who pays to finance a comprehensive end-of-life electronics
management system. The model legislation that CSG/ERC released in April 2006
takes a producer responsibility approach, she said. She outlined the
proposal, explaining that each manufacturer's obligation, or share, would be
based on a percentage of its sales of covered electronic devices in a state.
Cohen told the committee that in nearly every state in which the model bill
was filed, the basis for calculating a manufacturer's financial obligation
was changed to return share from market share. She remarked that CSG/ERC does
not advocate for or against any particular legislative proposal, but she
noted that the general trend in electronic recycling legislation is leaning
toward producer responsibility. As more states enact electronic recycling
laws, it is becoming increasingly clear that regional cooperation would lower
states' implementation costs, she added. Senator Musto
asked for a comparison of the Chairman Hutchinson asked about
the move to a return share. Cohen stated return share is highly supported by
computer manufacturers. She said they chose a market share approach in the
model legislation because it creates a more level playing field. Chairman
Hutchinson asked if the model legislation addressed interstate commerce.
Cohen said the issue was brought up during deliberations but they could not
come up with a real answer. She said upon talking to a renowned economist the
Council believes there's a good chance this issue would not be a problem. Rep. Chris Ross (R-Chester) said he attended the CSG/ERC
conference and they decided on model legislation requiring producer
responsibility. He voiced his concerns that the ARF is hard to properly
determine. He explained that the fee is collected upfront before it is spent
on the program. He noted that some suggested starting with a low fee and
increasing it but his concern is that every time the fee goes up people will
see it as a tax increase. Rep. Ross also noted problems with trying to
collect the fee from retailers because some are very small and trying to
create the infrastructure and enforcing it is nearly impossible. He explained
that he is introducing legislation that would require every manufacturer who
sells electronics in Senator Musto
asked for more information about the registration system. Rep. Ross replied
that manufactures would have to be registered to sell their electronic
equipment in Chairman Hutchinson asked if Rep.
Ross would support a bifurcated system for televisions and computers. Rep.
Ross said he would support it if it would make all sides happy. Bob Bylone,
Executive Director, Chairman Hutchinson commented that
he believes end markets are the key to making e-recycling work. He suggested
that end markets need to be developed before a ban is put in place. Bylone agreed that regardless of the commodity there is a
need to optimize the end use market. The Joint
Legislative Air and Water Pollution Control and Conservation Committee
held an environmental forum today with the Pennsylvania Department of
Environmental Protection (DEP) and the Pennsylvania Environmental Council
(PEC) to describe a public-private partnership between state government,
environmental organizations, community groups and businesses that have joined
forces to clean up illegal dumpsites in the Commonwealth. The Clean Up Our
American Lands and Streams, or C.O.A.L.S. program, now in its third year, is
responsible for clearing millions of tons of municipal trash and waste tires
from multiple sites in Bartos explained that businessman Dave Kaleta led a tour of private landowners, legislators, DEP
officials, businesspeople and local government officials on Under Bartos' guidance, DEP developed a pilot program in
Northumberland and By inviting private
donations, little taxpayer money is used to fund the program. Several
companies have donated landfill space to accept the waste, several waste tire
recycling companies have taken the used tires and Waste Management has
donated its services to transport the waste to the proper disposal sites. The
trash found in illegal dumpsites is roughly 50 percent municipal waste and 50
percent tires, according to Bartos. He said there is a "golden
triangle" that is responsible for clean-ups at these sites, including
DEP, the private sector and non-profit groups. Often, high school students
who must perform community service projects in order to complete graduation
requirements are used to remove trash. The students receive a one-half hour
safety briefing and then work for four hours at the site. Boy Scout groups,
other community-based organizations and in one case, state correctional
facility inmates have participated in illegal dumpsite cleanup projects. Bartos commented that DEP will not
authorize a site to be cleaned under the C.O.A.L.S. program if the agency
knows who is responsible for the waste at the site, or if the community does
not agree to help clean the location. Julie McMonagle of the Pennsylvania Environmental Council
commented that the program has a valuable educational component.
"Students learn how trash affects their community and the
environment," she said. "They learn how trash negatively affects
the environment, the importance of creating beautification projects like
planting new trees and installing walking trails and they see how it can lead
to economic revitalization projects coming into their communities as business
people see the area as a more desirable place to locate a business." McMonagle said another benefit to the
program is getting municipal governments to talk to each other and cooperate
in the cleanup efforts and to keep the areas from becoming dumpsites in the
future. She added, "Healthcare companies are supporting the idea when
walking trails are installed because it promotes a healthier lifestyle in
their communities." Bartos noted that security cameras and
barriers are used to detect and deter illegal dumping at sites that have been
cleaned. "This is an aggressive approach because we do not want people
dumping again at a site that has been so thoroughly cleaned and in many
cases, beautified," he said . C.O.A.L.S. partners
include high school students, private landowners, PA CleanWays,
local businesses, local governments, Keep Pennsylvania Beautiful, County
Conservation Districts, environmental groups, watershed groups, community
volunteers and the Pennsylvania Environmental Council. Rick Morrison, PA
Legislative Services JOINT LEGISLATIVE CONSERVATION
COMMITTEE Presentation on carbon sequestration By Heather Hottle, PLS Intern The Committee held a meeting to
hear a presentation on Carbon Sequestration. Chairman Scott Hutchinson (R-Venango)
opened the meeting by saying the face of science is changing and there are
many environmental problems that our fathers would not have considered.
Chairman Hutchinson then named carbon sequestration as one of these problems.
John Quigley, Director of Legislation and
Strategic Initiatives for the Department of Conservation and Natural
Resources (DCNR), provided the committee with an
overview of the Department's preliminary plans to correct Quigley explained that Quigley offered that DCNR has been
looking at the global warming issue and at carbon sequestration specifically.
He explained that carbon sequestration consists of extracting the carbon
dioxide from the atmosphere or smokestacks through photosynthesis or other
technologies and then storing it. Quigley shared that there are two types of
storage: terrestrial; meaning plants, grasses, trees and soil, and geologic; meaning
underground formations and coal seams that are unable to be mined. Quigley said the reason DCNR is
looking into the issue is because it is the largest landowner in Quigley offered that Quigley commented that Terrestrial: Conservation of the forestland
base Further forest establishment and
restoration Proper forest management to help
protect from insects and disease The use of wood and biomass
energy, such as cellulosic ethanol, which uses all
types of plants for energy Expanded use of wood products The expansion of urban and
suburban forestry Public and institutional education
Geologic: Protocols for siting
and operating sequestration projects Geologic sequestration pilot
projects A pilot coal bed methane project Public and institutional education
Quigley continued that Quigley then answered questions
from the crowd. You talked about a coalbed methane project, could you provide more details
about it? Quigley said there is one commercial coalbed methane
recapture project in southwestern PA, but there is talk about trying one in
the northwestern part of the state in the anthracite region. He said there is
a need to try a pilot project in that area to see if it can work on
anthracite coal. He explained that it includes using carbon dioxide to force
out coal methane, which is a recoverable resource. On the subject of incentives and
regulations, currently there are no smoke stack regulations? Quigley replied that there are not
specific regulations regarding carbon dioxide, but he believes in the next
five to ten years, the If you put this one percent into
perspective and look at the amount of people in Quigley commented that the Rep. David Kessler (D-Berks) said
New York City is requiring by 2013 that all taxi cabs be hybrid, adding that
he is working on a piece of legislation that will introduce the idea to
Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Quigley remarked that every
conservation measure is important. Pennsylvania is an exporter of
energy, does it bother you that we credited with having a carbon dioxide
problem when we are exporting energy to states that are considered clean? Quigley said the question is when
carbon is regulated if The media already penalizes Quigley responded to the comment
saying that the DCNR thinks there is a "sweet spot" that can be
found in this situation. He said that there is a possibility for By Kimberly Collins, PLS
The Committee held an informational meeting on the Abandoned Mine Land Fund. Members in attendance included Chairman Scott Hutchinson (R-Venango) and Representatives Dick Stevenson (R-Mercer) and Gary Haluska (D-Cambria).
Chairman Hutchinson remarked this is a timely issue, and stated abandoned mines have been identified in 44 counties in PA, covering 4,800 miles of stream and 1.4 million Pennsylvanians live within one mile of an abandoned mine site. He stated that PA has more abandoned mine sites than any other state and the estimated cost to remediate those sites is $1.5 billion. He noted the reauthorization of the federal Abandoned Mine Land Program means significant funding will be coming into PA.
John Dawes, Administrator of the Western PA Watershed Program (WPWP) and Chair of the PA AML Campaign, provided the committee with an overview of the efforts to reauthorize the federal SMCRA (the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977) and the challenges the state faces in remediating abandoned mine sites. He explained that in anticipation of the sunset of Title IV provisions of SMCRA legislation (the collection of a small fee on coal mining) several environmental leaders from ten eastern coal states met to write provisions for reauthorization. As a result of their efforts, the SMCRA was reauthorized at the end of 2006. He stated reauthorization is particularly important to PA because it has the largest inventory of abandoned mine lands and the largest number of dangerous features. Dawes stated that the federal appropriations under the original SMCRA "became increasingly discretionary and diverted so that picking away at this inventory through annual appropriations in the amount of $22-23 million, it would have taken 60 to 70 years to complete reclamation." The reauthorization, which includes mandatory spending and a pay-out schedule will allow PA to attack multi-year planning and construction projects that will lead to improved quality of life in coalfield communities.
Dawes stated PA anticipates $1.4
billion in abandoned mine land funds to come to PA over the next 15 years,
but stressed that this amount represents only a portion of what is ultimately
needed. He stated, "Our collective challenge will be to strategically
and most cost-effectively prioritize how to clean up Insure complete compliance with the law for the collection of reclamation fees with the Federal Office of Surface Mining, Reclamation and Enforcement to expand its audit program to establish a system to document that reclamation fees have been and are being collected in full No exceptions to collection of reclamation fees, with possible limited waiver for remined coal waste to burn in CFB power plants Necessary use of funds to include a mechanism for the on-going or perpetual operations and maintenance needs of acid mine drainage abatement or treatment facilities Flexibility for PA to utilize funds for reclaiming P1 and P2 sites Use of funds as match to other federal state or private funding as a means to leverage additional funding for acid mine drainage abatement and treatment Necessary use of funds to include demonstration projects which test innovative and/or most cost-effective methodologies to abate or treat acid mine drainage
Next, Scott Roberts, DEP Deputy Secretary of Mineral Resource Management, provided an overview of the history of mining in PA and efforts to reclaim abandoned mine land. Roberts explained minerals have been a source of wealth for all civilizations and discussed the many minerals that have been mined from PA. He stated as the mineral supply at one site was exhausted, mining operations abandoned the site and moved on to another site. He remarked mining is a site occupier, not land use, and reclamation returns the land for future use. Reclamation, he commented, is not cheap, but necessary to enjoy the full value of PA. Roberts stated PA was the first state to recognize the need for reclamation and he discussed the hundreds of projects undertaken. In 1982, he stated, PA became eligible for federal funding for abandoned mine reclamation projects under SMCRA and the first step was to inventory sites and prioritize them. He explained SMRCA was a health and safety program, not an environmental program, and first priority sites (P1) are those that are deemed dangerous. Second priority sites (P2) are those sites at which an accident may happen. He stated PA has received $600 million since 1982 and reclaimed 170 miles of stream, protected 2,500 acres from subsidence, mine fires have been extinguished (except at Centralia where the town had to be relocated), and 230 passive treatment systems opened. Despite these achievements, Roberts stated, PA still has a lot left to do. He stated 185,000 acres in PA qualify as P1 or P2, and that's just for coal mine sites. He stated there are many other mine sites and quarries across PA that need to be reclaimed.
Roberts stated the reauthorization gives PA a stable funding platform of $1.4 billion in the next 15 years and DEP is working to determine how to spend that money efficiently. He also stated avenues will be explored to utilize this funding to leverage additional funds. He stated DEP will be convening several roundtable discussions to receive input on PA's abandoned mine reclamation needs. In the meantime, he urged patience from the public and reminded those gathered that mines and quarries are dangerous, deadly places that should be avoided.
Lastly, Roderick Fletcher,
Director of the Bureau of Abandoned Mine Reclamation at DEP, discussed the
reauthorization. He explained key provisions of the law will take effect
The presenters then answered questions from the crowd.
Is it true the fee paid by mine companies will be decreased? Where is that money coming from? Fletcher explained the fee will decrease 20% in two phases. It will decrease 10% immediately then in five years it will again decrease 10%. He stated up to $490 million will be available from Treasury to cover costs, but he opined he is comfortable all the funding will be available.
Why are there variations in the amount of money PA is projected to receive each year? Roberts explained the previous law required 50% of the fee required in a state to go back to that state, but that money was not fully appropriated in the past so differences will be distributed. States will also receive the 50% going forward and the historic reduction formula (which is based on the amount of the nation's coal that the state produced) will be applied. He explained each of these funding streams is applied differently, which accounts for the variation in each year's projections. Roberts added that the funding is mandatory, and it does not have to go through the appropriations process each year. Fletcher added another variation is the fact that not all states are certified, so it is unknown how many states will be competing for the funding.
Is OSM the final arbitrator in deciding which sites will be reclaimed? Fletcher replied the law defines priorities and OSM is responsible for maintaining the inventory. Roberts added OSM does not choose the order of sites to be reclaimed; that is determined at the state level. He noted DEP will be rewriting its policy document that direct the selection process following the roundtable discussions.
The next Joint Legislative
Conservation Committee meeting will be June 11th at
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